‘Deep Sleep’ (1972): Deep, Deep Trouble
Podcast 52

‘Deep Sleep’ (1972): Deep, Deep Trouble <br />Podcast 52
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In 1972, Alfred Sole, a first time filmmaker, made an X-rated film called ‘Deep Sleep’.

He didn’t know much about adult films or the industry, so he shot it in his hometown of Paterson, New Jersey and using a cast and crew made up of friends and family members.

This meant that the local lawyer, banker, policeman, high school teachers, funeral home director, the mayor’s wife, even Alfred’s wife and his mother were part of the film-making group. It seemed like everyone in Paterson knew someone who was involved in the making of ‘Deep Sleep’.

And so predictably when it came out it was a smash hit in New Jersey, with long lines of people breaking box office records trying to get into the theaters to see it.

But not everyone was impressed. And what followed was one of the most remarkable and notorious prosecutions of an adult film in American history. First the filmmakers were indicted on a state basis under an ancient anti-fornication statute, and then on a federal level for interstate transportation of pornography. Suddenly Alfred Sole found himself at the center of a storm. He was under attack both from the law and from everyone who’d helped him make the film in the first place.

On this Rialto Report, the people involved speak out for the first time in 40 years. We speak to –

Alfred SoleAlfred Sole, Deep Sleep’s director

 

 

 

 

 

Kim PopeKim Pope, Deep Sleep actress

 

 

 

 

 

Jospeh FriedmanJoseph Friedman, Deep Sleep cinematographer

 

 

 

 

Butch TaylorButch Taylor, Deep Sleep’s soundtrack composer

 

 

 

 

 

John NiccollaiJohn Niccollai, Assistant District Prosecutor

 

 

 

 

 

 

This episode’s running time is 69 minutes.

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Deep Sleep (1972) – Stills

Paterson, NJKim Pope (aka Mary Canary), Anthony De Marco (aka Anthony Dema)

 

Kim Pope, Anthony De MarcoKim Pope, Anthony De Marco drive past the Bishop’s residence

 

Kim Pope, Anthony De MarcoKim Pope, Anthony De Marco, with the whip taken in evidence

 

Paterson, NJGreat Falls, Paterson NJ

 

Willard ButtsWillard Butts looks on

 

Jamie GillisJamie Gillis, in hammock

 

Marc Stevens, Cindy WestMarc Stevens, Cindy West

 

Paterson, NJThe Maharishi

 

Deep Sleep

 

Deep Sleep – Press Coverage

Deep Sleep

 

Deep Sleep

 

Alfred Sole

 

Deep Sleep

 

Deep Sleep

 

Alfred Sole

 

Kim Pope

 

Alfred Sole

 

Kim Pope

 

Alfred Sole

 

Joseph Gourley

 

Deep Sleep

 

Deep Sleep

 

Paterson, NJ

 

29 Comments

  1. James Smith · July 26, 2015 Reply

    Podcast perfection! Amazing job – fascinating story, skillfully told. This deserves multiple listens, and is one of the best yet!

  2. Jim Stibson · July 26, 2015 Reply

    I’m listening to this now but couldn’t wait to pass on my comments.
    1. I never heard of this – so am surprised to hear all about it.
    2. Your sensitivity has brought out some amazingly honest and tender moments.
    3. Where can I find this movie?!

    Thanks for all you do.

    • Frank F · July 31, 2015 Reply

      Jim, after much searching, I found a DVD of “Deep Sleep” available through Adult DVD Empire, as a ‘special order’.
      It is produced through Gourmet Video.

      Now that I’ve heard “the rest of the story”, I’ve got to see this film, even if the quality is spotty. Just to see the Arch-Bishop’s house!

      Here is a link, if you are interested.

      http://www.adultdvdempire.com/1442230/deep-sleep-porn-movies.html

  3. Steve · July 26, 2015 Reply

    This is very similar to a film called the Amateurs, staring Jeff Bridges and Ted Danson.

  4. Roy Karch · July 26, 2015 Reply

    Great story finally comes out front.
    Thank you, Ashley
    …and shame on you!
    Roy.

  5. Alex D. · July 26, 2015 Reply

    The bard of adult film history strikes again – pure poetry. I was moved by Kim Pope’s final words and they will stay with me a long, looong, time.

  6. Jeff King · July 26, 2015 Reply

    This is one of the most insightful pieces I’ve ever seen or heard on the old school adult film industry.

    There is an immense amount of humanity here – from Alfred’s honesty about letting his friends down, to Kim’s regrets, to Niccollai’s near-apologia at the very end. Never judgemental, always respectful.

    There’s so much to commend here – and it puts efforts like the recent, superficial and embarrassing Fishbein / Showtime ‘special’ on adult films to shame. (And Paul Fishbein – if you have the good taste to read this site which I doubt, take note: this is how it’s done).

    The Rialto Report is treating the world of early XXX films as a sub-cultural movement, and according it the study and credit that it deserves. This is an important approach and this is an important collection of history.

    • Bruce Jacobsen · July 27, 2015 Reply

      Have to admit I agree. The industry is a joke in part because of imbecilic trash like ’25 Best Films of Porn’ etc. I just hope someone is getting paid well for it because it reduces the complexity of the period to the point of retarded caricature.

  7. Bondurant · July 26, 2015 Reply

    One of the best episodes to date. A film and a controversy I had never heard of.

  8. Jim Stevens · July 26, 2015 Reply

    The soundtrack to this episode alone was worth the price of admission, but add four eloquent people and you have the makings of an excellent podcast. I was especially impressed by Kim Pope…I agree with Jeff King that her final statements were very moving.

    • The Rialto Report · July 27, 2015 Reply

      Thanks Jim – the music component is an element that we love adding to each episode! We’ll have to do a Rialto Spotify playlist some time…

  9. Organtitus · July 27, 2015 Reply

    Fantastic!

  10. Ryan Myres · July 27, 2015 Reply

    Alfred is the heart and soul of this point – and seemingly a genuinely nice guy.

    But Kim Pope is a revelation. She speaks with dignity, maturity and a surprising lack of bitterness. A class act.

  11. William Mzrgold · July 27, 2015 Reply

    Quite a cautionary tale of tails.
    Very well “played” out!

  12. Aaron M · July 27, 2015 Reply

    This episode was carefully edited and the story was very well told. I’m surprised that you were able to get the prosecutor to agree to an interview, especially given the pro-porn nature of the Rialto Report. But for me, this was the interview thread that made the story most interesting; only hearing one side of the case would be incomplete.

    Also fascinating that the director admitted that his lawyer bribed a federal judge. I’d guess he could be indicted for that as well; perhaps the statue of limitations has already run out?

    • The Rialto Report · July 27, 2015 Reply

      Thanks Aaron. We try to be balanced – and so John Niccollai’s voice is an important part of the story. And we feel he does a great job in explaining his position too.

  13. Wayne · July 27, 2015 Reply

    I just finished listening to this – twice!! Rich, rich story-telling.

  14. Frank F · July 29, 2015 Reply

    Rialto Report, you have outdone yourself with your latest podcast. Once again the choice of music is spot on. I had never heard of this film, so there was great anticipation on my part as to how this story would end. Really cool that Alfred Sole was able to realize his dream and make more films (I remember Alice, Sweet Alice from my VHS days).

    One point remains – now I want to see Deep Sleep. Has it ever been made available on VHS or DVD? Perhaps Alpha Videos? If you know of a source, please let me know!

    Thanks

  15. Ryan Myres · July 30, 2015 Reply

    Masterful as ever.
    Kim is of the most eloquent people that I’ve heard on the subject of the women’s experience. I’d like to hear more. Any chance of a full podcast just on her life?

  16. Skirm · August 1, 2015 Reply

    I remember reading about Alfred in some magazine interview. He said he only directed one film which was Alice Sweet Alice, then went on to be a Production Designer. He definitely didn’t mention he also directed Deep Sleep. Pretty cool he told The Rialto Report all about it..

  17. Albert Mudat · August 6, 2015 Reply

    I BEG you to do a feature on Ms Pope. She was a beauty (as was Terri Hall btw).
    Please please please…

  18. Dave Beynon · August 6, 2015 Reply

    Others have said it more eloquently , so I’ll say it simply. Beautiful. Thank you. Db.

  19. M-D Dolenti · August 11, 2015 Reply

    Best. Podcast. Ever.
    Seriously brilliant.

  20. Xavier · August 29, 2015 Reply

    Absolutely riveting story. I will look forward to a copy of this film. Please do a podcast on Kim Pope. Thank You!

  21. Peter · September 1, 2015 Reply

    This is one of the best stories I have ever heard. Amazing. Riveting.

  22. Brendan · September 1, 2015 Reply

    A pod cast just on Kim Pope whould be great ! Also what ever happens to Jane Lindsey AKA as Mandy Ashley and Vici Lyon? They were HOT!!!

  23. Xavier · September 9, 2015 Reply

    Every chance I get I recommend The Rialto Report to any person I know who REALLY loves film. I just sent an email to the folks at THE HYSTERIA LIVES podcast (they specialize in 70s & 80s slasher movies) to tell them to visit The Rialto Report so they get a load of this story (particularly Alfred Sole’s interview) and get to understand where the director arguably picked up some of his anti-catholic mojo to season his cult classic ALICE SWEET ALICE (aka Holy Terror). Any genre fan would love The Rialto!

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